S50 USB push/pull images?

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  • #6848
    shinglepingle
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    Hi All,
    I’ve been struggling for a week with an S50 (yes i’m a newbie) in getting it to pull an image from PXE FTP boot setup.

    I bought it off ebay to do a trial but it was erased.

    Can anybody here send me a USB bootable factory default image i can just put in and image across? is it just me or would it be good to have a website where you can just download a USB image that you can quickly image back to factory defaults?

    getting the image from wyse guarentees it doesn’t have a hack in it i guess but the whole PXE thing has driven me nuts for a week (basically i get it to a stage where it tries to run the batch files from the FTP directory – alone.bat and all the rest) and fails.

    anyway, just some thoughts.
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    #21076
    ConfGen
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    The Wyse USB Imager will most likely not work with S-class due to very limited support in the BIOS for USB sticks.
    What tool have you tried?
    WDM or WSI should work fine.

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    #21077
    shinglepingle
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    I don’t have a support contract so i can’t get WDM or the most recent version of WSI.

    I have been trying with an archived version of WSI and i can get it going on winxp using turboDHCP w/ PXE, TFTP boots the image and then reads all the FTP directories and fails to do the correct thing because it seems to request as a FTP directory. i’m guessing it’s supposed to pass through the model number and get the appropriate file.

    I was up to a stage where i was going to install filemon on windows XP to get an idea of which files were being accessed and in what order. the FTP server log shows a lot of files but it’s like 15 – 20 that it cycles through and fails… i spend a week solid on it so i’m a little discouraged….

    i bought a WT3250SE off ebay and that works fine and I have a WT3225SE (i think i’m not at my desk) which i can image off and on.
    the S50 does support pull/push from the S50 because i can pull off the blank flash device contents to the USB and it works fine. 🙂

    i would be cool to just be able to have a library that users contribute to of factory images via bootable USB i thought rather than haveing to jump through all the WSI hoops.

    of course if i had the latest WSI that everything just works i would be happy (wink)…

    thanks for the reply

    #21078
    shinglepingle
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    one suggestion:
    it’s good idea to have the capcha characters when you register but is it really needed to relog back into the forum when i’m already registered? makes it a little painful…. still i’m not the sysadmin…

    it’s a very useful site, keep it up whoever owns it.

    #21081
    ConfGen
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    WSI is available on this site for free download.

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    spoolin01
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    Can’t help you technically, but Wyse makes WDM freely available – it’s no longer tied to device purchase.

    #21136
    ConfGen
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    @Spoolin01, that’s not correct. WDM is still tied to a device license. But to make it easier they give out the Workgroup edition without any restrictions. But again, from a license point of view, you have to have Wyse units. If you buy a Wyse client, you automatically purchase a WDM Workgroup license. If there is a newer WDM version then the one that was available when you bought the client, you are not allowed to update WDM or install the latest version.

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    #21140
    shinglepingle
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    I was getting excited then, i thought someone had posted me a helpful reply.

    no, not to be. 🙁

    #21141
    shinglepingle
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    btw, the S class does support bootable USB…. 🙂

    #21142
    ConfGen
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    Yes, but the support is very limited and only a few sticks will work.
    Looks like you are lucky and found one 😉

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    #21219
    spoolin01
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    @ConfGen wrote:

    @Spoolin01, that’s not correct. WDM is still tied to a device license. But to make it easier they give out the Workgroup edition without any restrictions. But again, from a license point of view, you have to have Wyse units. If you buy a Wyse client, you automatically purchase a WDM Workgroup license. If there is a newer WDM version then the one that was available when you bought the client, you are not allowed to update WDM or install the latest version.

    CG

    Hi ConfGen – first, thanks for this site and your help, I have learned a lot as a noob and non-IT type.

    I still don’t fully follow the Wyse licensing terms, it seems. In May I contacted Wyse and detailed that I had a handful of units – some that were more recent but also several (9450/9455/9150) that were clearly many years old, that I bought second hand, and asked about buying a WDM license. I got responses from 3 or 4 people, all eager to help – it’s impressive when a company shows that degree of interest in a small potential customer. They explained WDM Workgroup was free, and directed me to the online process for obtaining the licensing, which I’ve done several times now (it took awhile to figure out the 42 day XP password expiration issue, so I was re-imaging my WDM drive when WDM would lose connection to the ftp database).

    Here is their licensing process page: http://www.wyse.com/bundle/bundlestep4.asp
    It states that only units purchased after 15Oct2007 qualify for free licensing of WDM 4.8.5, yet none of their reps said anything about using it with my older units, nor offered to sell a license for them. Perhaps that was because I also had V90Ls made since the cutoff date, though no mention of the purchase date issue was made at all. The licensing terms – at least to the extent they’re described on that page – also don’t address the purchase of 2nd hand units.

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