Newbie with 9450XE questions

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    Hello all, I’m new to thin clients but not computing in general. I recently picked up a 9450XE from eBay to explore and I’m having fun with it so far, though I do have some questions.

    – Is there a hardware reference available anywhere? I look over the motherboard and see all those jumpers and headers and whatnot and wonder what they are….

    – I seem to have had NO luck with the USB imaging package; I’ve set the BIOS to boot from everything USB and tried three different flash drives and even a small USB hard drive that I prepared following the provided formatter and directions… and I can’t get the unit to boot from any of them. I’ve tried formatting as FAT and FAT32, it seems to make no difference.

    I know the unit can boot from USB because I managed to boot a Ubuntu LiveCD and used that to do a blockwise copy of the flash drive as a backup in case I managed to thoroughly foul the machine up with my experimentation.

    – I was informed in another thread that the BIOS updates are included as part of the image. I’m wondering how far “behind” my machine is. It came with XPe SP1, and the BIOS is 6.00PG Version 1.23, dated January 15, 2003. And if someone out there has a more recent BIOS … is there a feature in there to tweak the CPU clock speed multiplier? I have another brand of thin client using a bit more recent version of the Via C3 CPU platform that does and I was able to boost the CPU speed by a shocking 40% that way…!

    In any event – thanks for this great site, and for any suggestions or pointers you might be able to give.

    George M.

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    Hi,

    this graphic is all I have. Not the best quality but at least a bit.
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    Check the image version inside the OS an compare with the image version on the Wyse website. I don’t know the included BIOS version out of my head.

    CG

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    I really appreciate that image – I found some documentation on the Via site once I realized it wasn’t a custom motherboard… but the PDF I found didn’t document the FSB jumpers the image you provided did! Shifted one jumper and that switched from 100MHz FSB to 133MHz, resulting in a CPU speed jump from 550MHz to 733MHz! No crashing or thermal problems so far.

    I did finally get the unit re-imaged, but it was a real Rube Goldberg solution – had to install the USB imager on a small HD in a USB case, then pull it out of the case and hook it up via IDE and boot it that way…. Immediately booted the 9450 up with a Linux LiveCD and grabbed a blockwise image so I don’t have to go through that again if I manage to foul it up.

    Thanks for the help… I’m sure I’ll be learning a lot more as time goes by!

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    I’ve run my WT9450XE for some time after changing the front-side bus speed from 100MHz to 133MHz – changing that jumper block above the right-hand side of the DIMM slots from 0101 to 1100. The boost in CPU speed from 550MHz to 733MHz seems to be quite stable and I haven’t had any thermal issues at ordinary room temperature.

    Note – the RAM modules MUST be PC133 rated; I had put another stick in that turned out to be PC100 and I got a ton of bluescreens; once I made sure all RAM in the machine was PC133 – it was rock-solid.

    The boost in processor speed of 33% is noticeable and useful to me. Obviously in a major deployment it might not be worth having to physically deal with each unit, but smaller deployments or where there just isn’t budget for newer units might find this information useful.

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    But the temperature at full load, must be much higher isn’t it?
    I’ve got the same mb, and i will try it allso.

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    @farends wrote:

    But the temperature at full load, must be much higher isn’t it?
    I’ve got the same mb, and i will try it allso.

    That’s true – but I figured I’d give it a try at “idle” first – if it overheated then, obviously it wasn’t going to work under load!

    I haven’t been able to find a program that will yield temperature data running under XPe, so I’ve been somewhat hesitant to try to load down the CPU and see how hot it gets. (OF course – it’s possible this motherboard doesn’t have that kind of temperature sensor to begin with…)

    The advantage the 9450XE has is the vertical design, which I think tends to encourage convection cooling.

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