help setting up rapport for 8440xl’s

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    First we are very new to the thin client systems. We are working on setting up rapport to manage 8440xl’s and are getting nowhere. anyone have a step-by-step setup or a link to more on this?

    Also, anyone know what the “admin tool password” is or a way around it? it asks for this when we click settings from the start menu. This isn’t system settings, it’s a shortcut to appPanel.exe in the rapport folder on the 8440xl’s.

    thanks for any help.

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    Hi acc1,

    That is a very old unit and it used a tool called “Remote Admin” to push out images. These units were actually made by a company Wyse purchased.

    I have not tried on that unit but I managed some 8235’2 with Rapport 4.4.1. There were a few add-in tools you had to load into Rapport to extract an image, I doubt if they will work for you as yours is so old and was not actually a Wyse product (re-branded)

    Best option would be to manually flash them (however you do that currently) and try and load the HAgent on them which will allow you to push out updates.

    Seriously though, these are very old units so is it worth the effort?

    Cheers,
    -TT

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    They are pretty old, no you’re right they are very old. But, if we can’t manage them with rapport (and i get the impression that it won’t be easy or even possible), then we’ll probably fall back to Plan B and just use a compact flash to ide adapter, a small CF card, and thinstation linux to force a terminal service session into the server holding all the shop data. We’ve been messing with this on the side and it looks like it will be pretty effective and from what you indicate, alot easier. We have one we’re testing thinstation on and another i’ve been playing with win98se on. Seems odd that they have 400mhz amd’s. We’ll have to scale those back to where we can run with just a good heatsink otherwise i’ll be plagued with dead fans all over the place.

    Anyway, a couple of questions:

    You mentioned that these are re-branded, do you know who originally made these?
    What newer models would you recommend? Please keep in mind that i am looking for some extremely cheap stuff since i don’t expect good life from them.
    Along with that, what are some good souces for used wyse equipment?

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    Hi,

    Yep, ThinStation sounds good. I used to use PXES when it was free on Wyse 9455’s and it worked well.

    What environment are you in – ICA/RDP and do you need any peripheral support?

    For the best simple client look at the new S10 or second hand Wyse 1200LE as these are the most reliable and cheapest. Generally e-bay is a good place to start or a lease company selling end of lease equipment.

    Cheers,
    -TT

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    The XLs (9440, 8440, and 5440) were initially products from a company called Netier. The last models were rebranded after the merger and CPU boosted to 400mhz.

    Last downloads are still listed on the Wyse site:
    http://www.wyse.com/serviceandsupport/support/dlOraFW.asp?which=48&model=Winterm%208440XL

    I’m pretty sure its EOL so there won’t be any support from Wyse for configuring it, but if you install Rapport 4.4.1 and place the units on the same subnet you should be able to discover them and upgrade to HTTP management.

    It you’re looking for a “touch and feel” then I don’t know that’s a fair comparison as its a very old platform and functions completely different from anything shipping from any TC vendor I’m aware of.

    I agree with TT, it sounds like the blazer/WTOS is exactly what you are looking for and its one of the cheapest TCs available…and in my personal opinion one of very few “true thin clients”.

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    A bit of an update on this one…

    I started to play with one of these units because of this post and found a very interesting forum:

    http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowBoard&Board=ThinClient

    What I found is it is possible to image these units from Rapport but you need to use a PXE boot image with Disk On Chip tools from M-Systems. I actually found the tools to load into Rapport so if you want them I can post them in the downloads section.

    Also I pulled the Flash out of a 9455 and plugged this into the IDE port and it booted fine (I removed the DOC)

    In the end I opted to plug in on old HDD, load windows and am now using this old terminal as a MP3 server after loading some free-ware software to do this. 8)

    Ahh, now back to serious work I guess but thanks for the original post as I had fun playing with the unit to work this out,

    Thanks,
    -TT

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    @thinkthin wrote:

    Also I pulled the Flash out of a 9455 and plugged this into the IDE port and it booted fine (I removed the DOC

    Just curious, but what os was on the Flash?

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    It was XPe…

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