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12. October 2008 at 16:45 #1513
I’m preparing a business case about replacing our fat clients with thin clients.
Reading technical papers and specification seems to me that the best choice would be the WTOS (I think that thin clients should be a commodity like an IP telephone, no management & replacement jobs).
At the moment, the only missing thing is: how long will they last?
Probably in the future the only reason to replace/upgrade could be an incompatibility of ICA client with some important feature of an hypothetical new Presentation Server (or whatever they will call it in the future…) version.
So, looking to the past trying to forecast the future, how long did the 1125SE
and the 1200LE lasted?
Would they be still usable with the PS 4.5 infrastructure?
With what limitations?
When did the S10/V10L series appeared? How long will be their lifecycle?
Thanks in advance: this site has got plenty of priceless informations.
Mauro.12. October 2008 at 18:10 #14098thinkthinMember
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All very good questions!
From a hardware perspective they last a long time – I have worked with a large retail company and they have devices going on 9 years old. If they break they bin them and buy a new one! This really relates to the long mean time between failure (I thing 80, 000 hours).
As yo point out what really makes units obsolete is hardware changes (ie. now I need two monitors not one) or software support. Assuming you are happy with the hardware you should check with Wyse on the roadmap for S10 an V10L. With the older 1125 and 1200LE Wyse made updates for these over a year after production ceased.
My 2 cents is WTOS is a great platform, V10L are new, have a more powerfull graphicsCPU and should be a good future proof device if you can budget these over S10.
-TT18. October 2008 at 14:05 #14171
Thank you for the good response: next week I’ll get two V10L units for a Try&Buy. I will not publish a desktop but the single applications using the pnalite seamless to be coherent with the existing publishing technique we are using towards fat clients: is it ok and reliable?
According your experience, is it better/possible to deal directly with Wyse or with a partner to get a decent level of support?
Obviously, this forum will be the first place I’ll look for best practices and solutions.
M.19. October 2008 at 10:58 #14172
Using published apps is perfect. Nothing against it.
Regarding finding a competent partner: this is a difficult one.
Of course, the vendor is always the number one contact and I know a lot of the the Wyse SEs and they are fantastic. But as resources are limited it may be also a good idea to ask Wyse if they can name you a good partner with a proven set of knowledge.
Regarding the forum: YOU ARE RIGHT 😉
CG31. October 2008 at 21:55 #14252StretchMember
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I work for a animal feed company and we’ve had 3235, S30’s and S10’s in the harshest of environments for at least 3.5 years (how long I’ve been w/ the company) and I can say they really hold up well.
The environments are not always climate controlled very well, covered in dust and just get beat up…yet they still keep ticking away. I know of a 3235 that has been in place for over 5 years w/o a hiccup.
The lack of moving parts makes a thin client ideal for manufacturing scenarios such as mine. That’s my .021. November 2008 at 19:05 #14253
Just un update.
We have a POC live and running and we are starting a 6 persons’ pilot project.
The final configuration is:
– Published ICA Desktop with PNAgent populating the Start Menu
– Autostart of the Published Desktop
– Automatic Shutdown of the TC at the session disconnection
– Sign-on to the TC authenticating against XML Service (which enables sessions reconnection)
Only nagging thing: to change the user’s password that has expired it’s needed an extra unsuccessfull logon to the farm.
I’m very impressed about the speed of these devices.
What about local attached printers? Is there a way to centrally manage ad configure them to the devices?
M.3. November 2008 at 10:14 #142563. November 2008 at 13:17 #14263
@tramamo, you can configure printer centrally also, of course. But this can only work if each client has the same set of printers (either network or local).
Use my ConfGen tool to create teh needed wnos.ini parameters for printing.
Can we put the printer part into the mac file?
Thank you in advance,
M.3. November 2008 at 13:54 #14264
Yes, you can
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