Downgrade 9.1 to 8.6 – 8.6 settings not avalable in Wyse Management Suite

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  • #74174
    vdousset
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    We notice, if we dowgrade a device firwmare 9.1 to 8.6 the specific 9.1 device settings still exist. We cannot acces to the 8.6 settings. Like you se above This is wdm url for a device not update to 9.1 https://wmsserver.symta.fr/ccm-web/admin/device/36 https://wmsserver.symta.fr/ccm-web/admin/group/8/device/36?deviceType=6 And this is wdm url for a device downgrade after update to 9.1 https://wmsserver.symta.fr/ccm-web/admin/wms20/configuration/device/64 https://wmsserver.symta.fr/ccm-web/admin/wms20/configuration/deviceException/64?deviceType=6 Thanks for your help.

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    ConfGen
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    Sorry, but no clue what you mean.

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    #75664
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    Hi,

    if you “force unregister” the client, delete it from the device page and let it re-register, it should return to normal….

     

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    Volker

    #76113
    vdousset
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    No this is the problem, when i delete the device, and re-register it, i can’t access to the 8.6 settings. only the 9.1 settings.

     

    #76115
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    What settings do you mean?
    Any 9.x device can only be downgraded via USB Imaging. You cannot downgrade ThinOS 9.x via WMS.

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    #76138
    vdousset
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    Yes,  Fisrt i downgraded the 3040 via USB imaging.

    After i re-registred it to WMS. I can’t see the 8.6 settings, only show the 9.1 settings.

    Regards.

    #76161
    ConfGen
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    But, you have created a ThinOS 8 policy, haven’t you?

    CG

    #105874
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    Hi there.

    @vdousset
      Did you ever found a solution for this because we are facing exact the same problem?

    #105876
    vdousset
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    @summa i didn’t find any solution yet.

    Regards

     

    #105881
    ConfGen
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    Please explain a bit further.
    Maybe one or two screenshots could be helpful.

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    #106062
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    Sorry that I didn’t react sooner, but I lost a little track of this topic.

    The problem is that after I downgraded a device from firmware 9.1.1131 to 8.6.710 (latest merlin image I could find), when you go to the device to and click on “Create/edit exceptions” you get the settings for the 9.1.x policy and not those for the 8.6.x policy.

    So you get this:

    Instead of this:

    #106072
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    Are you sure that the downgraded device has fully checked in to WMS and ThinOS 8.6 is shown as the running OS?

    CG

    #106078
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    Yes, I’m pretty sure. For your reference, here a screenshot of that specific device in the WMS devices list (but this problem applies to all thin clients that I downgraded):

    I hope the screenshot is somewhat readable.

    #106094
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    Could you delete the device with “Force” option? Then filter the devices with “Status=Not registered” and delete the device finally.
    After that let the device check in again.

    CG

    #106127
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    I confirm that CG’s suggestion works.
    I just had the same problem:

    I downgraded a 3040 client with the USB imaging Tool to version 8.6_013 then to 8.6_807 via the group firmware policy update. No problem at all there.

    I then did the same for another 3040 client, but this time the 3040  after initial boot to 8.6_013 was then upgraded to 9.1.3112 !
    So I reflashed to version 8.6_013 but did not reboot it to avoid a new unwanted upgraded and I checked the WMS (3.3.1) : the specific parameters for the client were showing the 9.1 options only.
    I inferrred that the client had a specific configuration in 8.6 version to upgrade to the latest 9.1 version, so I guess that the unwanted upgrade was caused by this now ‘ghost’ 8.6 configuration.

    So I followed CG’s advice and force unregistered the client and then delete it.
    Upon registration, I got access to the 8.6 specific configuration.

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